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Is this insulting?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Crystal, Dec 12, 2009.

  1. Crystal

    Crystal OMG Member

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    Is this insulting?

    Sorry, I couldn't come up with a better title for this thread. Anyway, maybe this is a pointless topic, but anyway...

    Well, last month, someone told me that they had wished someone on facebook a "Happy Thanksgiving". Apparently the person responded to the sentiment by saying something like, "I don't live in America, so Thanksgiving doesn't mean anything to me. Try to be more thorough first before you make meaningless sentiments."

    Eh, that's not an exact quote. But close enough.

    So anyway, I was just wondering... if someone is wishing you well on a holiday that they celebrate, even if you don't observe the holiday yourself, should it really be considered annoying or offensive? I mean... I would think that if nothing else, it's the thought that counts.

    I suppose it might feel a little weird though, being wished "Happy Thanksgiving" if you live in another country and don't observe the holiday. But... well, I don't observe or celebrate Hanukkah, at least I don't think so because I believe that's a Jewish celebration, not the same as Christmas. But if someone wished me "Happy Hanukkah" I wouldn't be annoyed or offended. I'd just take it as someone expressing holiday wishes/greetings.

    Anyway yeah, I guess that's it. XD
     
  2. ArchAngel

    ArchAngel OMG Member

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    When someone wishes you a happy Hannukah, it's a religious thing and you look like a right dick if you have a go at them for wishing it. With (no offense) a mostly pointless, national holiday that all the world doesn't care about in the slightest, someone wishing you a happy one is a but of an annoyance.

    Like, say if you wished me a Happy Thanksgiving right now, you're a) making an assumption I celebrate it, making me American or Canadian and b) assuming I give a damn, both of which are false. And, well, when someone assumes you're just a part of their 'group', and they are very much mistaken, it's annoying.
     
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    Crystal

    Crystal OMG Member

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    Yeah, you've got good points there.
     
  4. heavymetal

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    sort of like being cursed at by a devil worshiper? if you are told to "go to hell" by a devil worshiper ain't that the same as being "blessed" by some other religious outfits?

    confusing ain't it?
     
  5. Nemmerle

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    People have their heads massively up their own arses these days.

    "Happy X."

    "Fuckyouy!"!$%$£%&$&**(U* GRRAHHH RAGE"

    Someone invites you to join their family for Christmas you don't tell them to fuck off because you're not part of that family. It doesn't matter what group you're part of, someone considers you to be close enough to them to apply the same treatment as they would to someone who really was part of that group.

    The Japanese have a word that doesn't really translate well into English, broadly speaking it means, 'friends as close as family.' it's often translated as comrades, and in most cases it's entirely analogous - different connotations though, less martial in nature than in the West. I think it's a concept that people should learn to apply more freely if they don't want to end up with their society completely polarised.
     
  6. Hawkeye

    Hawkeye OMG Member

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    People are too thin skinned and soft. Seems like the entire species is becoming professional whiners. I'd like to dig their eyes out with a spoon and piss in that spot where their brain was supposed to be.

    If some minor bullshit like that is all it takes to un-nerve someone, they should kill themselves immediately.

    Wish me a Happy Hanukkah and I'd say, I'm not Jewish but thanks for the thought! I'm not particular about the source of happy thoughts. Happy Hanukkah back at you!
     
  7. Wasturr

    Wasturr OMG Member

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    Agreed with Nem and Hawk's on both counts; Despite the advent of the net and Global awareness More and more people/individuals seem to become more self-centered.

    Just smile and roll with it.

    What doesn't Kill you...Well you know the rest.
     
  8. Sovereign002

    Sovereign002 Rest in Peace - 28th Feb 2010

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    I think your reaction would be more something of a "Yeah, yeah, whatever, you too. Now leave me alone! Bunch of weirdos." :p

    But really. People are just trying to be nice and share the joy. If you take offence to that, then you should wonder what the hell crawled up your arse. Sure, there's a difference between Hannukah and Thanksgiving. But does it matter whether it's religious or not? You can apply the whole "I'm not part of your religion"-argument just as easily.
    Saying Happy Thanksgiving to someone who isn't an American or a Canadian is kind of stupid, they don't really care, nor should they. Yet that doesn't give you a reason to get cranky, after all, someone is just trying to share their happiness with you.
     
  9. twinky dink

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    As I am someone that moved from a country that never did thanksgiving or the 4th of july stuff, and walking down the street on the 4th and having people yell at me happy 4th... I just smile and nod and kept walking. So yes...yes it is kinda rude, but hey when it was Australia day and ANZAC day I took my 5 minutes of silence while at work, people were rude at that so it works both ways I guess.
     
  10. ArchAngel

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    True that. People not fully Australian and the like have the right not to participate in the 5 minutes of silence, but they're still allowed to respect the rest of us. Alot have a tendency not to, though.
     
  11. Hawkeye

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    Why would I bother starting something with someone that meant me no harm? Do I give a damn about any of them?...Hell no. It's just foolish to start some shit with someone over nothing. I live by a strict Don't Start Any, Won't Be Any, rule.

    If someone says Happy Thanksgiving to someone non-US, it's most likely that the person is ill informed or just slipped. If there was not an intent to insult and you get snotty about it, that is on you.

    Most people are predictable. If they already have a dislike of a country or it's people, they will use any excuse to vent their dislike.

    I'm not Irish but I damn sure as hell celebrate St. Patrick's Day!

    I never pass up on a good time and I don't care who I have to kill so that my party is not ruined.

    Life...Just for the fun of it!
     
  12. Wraith 5

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    I had a history teacher in secondary (high) school who was American.. she always threw a party for her classes on thanksgiving, even though I'm pretty sure she was the only American in the school. Noone complained.
     
  13. ArchAngel

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    You were getting time in which you didn't have to do anything in. Of course you didn't complain ;).
     
  14. Wraith 5

    Wraith 5 Resident Pirate

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    plus cake ;)
     
  15. Crazy Wolf

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    Thin-skinned dickery on their part. I'm not English, but if someone wishes me a happy Guy Fawkes Day, I'd likely say "Thanks, enjoy the fireworks". I could see how wishing a Palestinian a "Happy Chanukah" might be seen as unkosher, but unless you hate the people who're throwing the party, then there's absolutely no reason for you to get butthurt.


    Granted, if a Japanese guy was wished "Happy Chinese New Year!" by a complete stranger, then I could see why they might get miffed, but that's for different reasons.
     
  16. MercZ

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    The person was probably on edge about American-centric culture, so it might've pushed them over. But it is mean on their end.
     
  17. Supercapo

    Supercapo An Everyman<br /><img src="http://www.therogueforu

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    I think most everyone hear, have hit the nail on the head. It doesn't make sense to get take insult to someone that's trying to wish you well. When I lived in Argentina people wished me a happy "Dia de los Magos" (Three Wise Man Day) or even a happy "Dia de Independancia" (Argentine Independence Day). I don't celebrate either of those Holidays and everyone around me knew I wasn't Argentine. But they were just wishing me happiness. It's not like just because they wished me a Happy Argentine Independence Day that they suddenly expected me to start singing the Argentine National Anthem.

    People need to calm down and try to see others good intentions instead of looking for an excuse to be insulted.
     
  18. JOtruba

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    Hey i dont live in usa i am offended by your thanksgiving! RIIIIGT, (do annyone really view people this much simplified?)
    look i say to ppl dont wish me helloween (it is celebrated here but its based more on celtic tradition than usa verssion of it and its called diffrently) something alike i am annoyed at the helloween word dunno why but i am. So yes its annoying to me but nothing to be rude or annyhing (unless you count me telling you to stop greeting me on holliday i dont celebrate). Its probably from plain jealoucy... "we dont have it so why should THEY?" kind of thinking.
    oh well thats my contribution ... nothing smart here as always.
    do have good whatever hollidays are upon you. oh yeah here is solution... tho comming from bullshitman [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYb3o8irBQM[/ame]
     
  19. Red Rebel

    Red Rebel <B>iloverebornintheglory</B><br /><img src="http:/

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    DIE ZOMBIE THREAD!

    /me beats Zombie Thread with toaster
     
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