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Nigel Farage owns Belgium.

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Rogue, Feb 26, 2010.

  1. Rogue

    Rogue OMG Member

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    Nigel Farage owns Belgium.

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/5536/Herman...huid-vol.dhtml

    [ame]http://youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY[/ame]

    Belgium got owned how about that
     
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    Digz OMG Member

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    I was just about to post this!!! Just posted it on my facebook page, I was actually listening to it on the radio minutes after he said it yesterday.

    I don't agree on what he said about Belgium but what he said about Rompuy was so true, he isn't elected and no one knows him, he's taking away democracy from nation states, go Farrage!
     
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    Rogue

    Rogue OMG Member

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    True though only smaller countries like the EU because they have fuck all national pride

    Plus they get lots of money from the bigger countries

    And they are scared of Russia
     
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    Lord Wiener The Illusive Man <br><img src="http://img.photobuc

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    AND Farage finally spoke the truth about Belgium.
     
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    Digz OMG Member

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    Exactly, the bigger nations in Europe are being strangled and pulled back by the smaller countries, this may be going off point but I think it's related:

    Greece may not be such a huge problem but when Greece goes, so does Spain and Portugal, then the rest of the EU are dragged down with them. To be honest, The UK is not best equipped to deal with another recession even the double dip one the economists keep speaking of. I fear not only for the UK, but for the rest of Europe, bailouts was a stupid idea, now we have sweet f-a left for anything else.

    The EU has increased dependency not just on smaller states, but on bigger states, all the bigger states in the EU are now in a position where they HAVE to bail out all the smaller countries or risk economic security to their own.

    Wiener, I know Merkel and the rest of Germany don't support the bailout of Greece, could you maybe tell us a bit more as the happenings of Germany are a bit of a shadow to me at the moment.

    This is getting back to Farrages' main statement and argument which is eroding all national sovereignty and economic sovereignty by eroding national institutions and replacing them with mega supra-national political and economic institutions.
     
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    Lord Wiener The Illusive Man <br><img src="http://img.photobuc

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    To be honest, I care little for politics. The truth I was referring to was that Belgium is not a country. IT DOES NOT EXIST. ;)
     
  7. Sovereign002

    Sovereign002 Rest in Peace - 28th Feb 2010

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    I should neg rep all of you.

    Anyway, Farrage didn't own Belgium, he owned Van Rompuy. Who doesn't represent Belgium as president. But what's the difference, right?
    Anyway, someone must have known him, as he was elected somehow. Point isn't whether anyone knew him, but whether he'll do a good job. I'm pretty confident he'll do a better job than, say, Tony Blair. The guy has only been president for what? A month officially? Give the guy a chance before you throw your filth at him. Who says a president from a smaller country is a bad thing? You think anyone would have been happy if the president had been a Frenchman?

    Personally? I don't really care about him, as long as he does a proper job. Which you can't decide yet.
     
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    Rogue

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    besides him not being voted in and getting paid more than Obama yeah cool no corruption there at all nope
     
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    MyNameDidntFit OMG Member

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    What's wrong with corruption? Corruption is a means to an end, it only matters what that end is -- and I doubt you know that.
     
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    Rogue

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    Because if you have ever paid for tax then you'd understand I do not like my money going to a man who is paid more than the president of the united states, who was not even voted for and is part of the political class system that ravages the EU system. Actually no wait, he was 'appointed' by a group of people who where also 'appointed' - Basically these guys are all friends.

    Put it this way, it's like a Internet forum and the admin is appointing his friends rather those who can do the job. You can drag on all you want about your philosophy again, but I rather not live in a system that is fucked to the core with greed and filth. It is better for single governments to rule over a country than a small union government to control a continent
     
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    Why does it matter who your money goes to? It's going to someone either way. And, face it, it isn't as though you know whether this guys is going to do the job well or not, is it?

    I think it's cute how you added the bit about my two sentences of 'dragging on' about philosophy, by the way.
     
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    Rogue

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    Your philosophy is always on a down turn, you state the obvious most of the time or just state something cynical. It matters who my money goes to because I would rather have it help someone, than go into some politicians pocket. I'd rather help my own country first than the whole of Europe for another thing, we have enough problems as it is. But apparently European MP's require a large decent sum of money to do their job.

    If it was not for people like Nigel, most of this shit in the EU parliament would be largely unknown, they do not like media attention.
     
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    Rogue I couldn't have said it better myself mate:

     
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    See now there's a sentiment that actually makes sense.

    The criticising of a man's ability to do his job prior to his demonstration of said ability is not something that makes sense to me, however. I know next to bugger all about the EU -- and I wont pretend to know anything about it -- but, in general, I can say that I don't care if the method by which someone gets into power is corrupt; as long as they do the job well they could have sacrificed a hundred virgins to get where they are for all I care.
     
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    Rogue

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    Then why are you posting if you don't know what you are talking about

    Infact all you seem to be saying is; I don't care if someone corrupt gets into power.
     
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    Why criticise him when you don't know what you're talking about?

    *shrug*

    All I'm saying is that if he does the job then... to quote your MSN personal message; "the end justifies the means".
     
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    Rogue

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    I do know what I am talking about, I even explained how he got into power.

    And the quote is from Eisenhorn - in the end he damned himself and damned the Imperium.
     
  18. MercZ

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    There's a way to go about these things and this isn't one of them. It doesn't help the cause of Euro-skeptics because Mr. Farage has made them seem like idiots by doing something I would typically associate with political ranting on the internet, or Glenn Beck level commentary.

    If I was in his spot I would have at least tried to open debate on how EU officials are getting paid, staff expenses, and the role of the president, rather than going into a series of personal attacks to fill up the bulk of his rant while peppering it with notions of democracy and accountability. Then again, all the things he said about the president of EU, particularly his noteworthiness, could have also been said about Farage himself to people who live outside the UK.

    And because someone is calling out Farage for this, they aren't "supporting" the EU but just that we would ideally expect a greater level of professionalism than this.
     
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    The EU knows no professionalism, it is run by elected officials from countries I have no say in, it's budget has not been accepted in years, the institutions that make up the EU are flaw to say the least and degrade national sovereignty to the fullest level.

    Imagine for one second if anyone of your countries had to obey tax laws and store opening and closing hours (even setting a maximum working hour day!!!) set by some other people that you don't know, and don't even speak the same language as you (they probably do speak English but you know what I'm trying to say).

    The democratic deficit in Europe is increasing day by day, we have a leader that has not been elected, but chosen what does this say about all the EU leaders supporting and trying to impose liberal democracy around the world in Afghanistan and Iraq?

    Farrage said this because it's what people wanted to hear, the message would not have gone out this far if he would have said it my way, he attacked Belgium to get a response from Rompuy, to provoke him to respond, he didn't which is a shame, but Farrage tried all the tricks and it failed. Why did it fail? I would argue because Rompuy was too scared to respond, arguably thinking that any response would undermine his already lacklustre leadership skills.

    That's my 2 pence.
     
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    Sorry to burst your bubble, but do you really think Farage could give a damn of what you think? He doesn't seem to care much for his salary nor the same parliamentary activities he carries out. He's taking all you for a ride with his populist agenda, all the while belonging to the same class of politicians that his opponents are in.

    Why should he respond to a raving idiot? is there any way he could have reasonably responded to Farage? Farage won't listen to him, and any attempt at doing so will just have Farage and Co. going "oh there goes your mainland elitism!" and such.

    If Farage is the face of euroskeptics then they should be looking for another person. I'm not impressed, nor can I say many external observers are.
     
  21. MyNameDidntFit

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    But what do you know the the man himself? And his ability to do the job he's been placed in?

    And that stops the adage being applicable, how, exactly?
     
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