RPG That I Might Like

RPG That I Might Like

I downloaded the Steam Demo for Penny Arcade Adventures: On The Rain Slick Precipice Of Darkness, Episode One.

It's like a comedy adventure.

It's a SP game but it looks like it might do for a time killer.

I just might buy this one.

 

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hell hawk i thought you was talking about a RPG-7?!! LOL

 

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You really need to expand more on your RPG Hawks try Oblivion for starters. It got Killer graphics and a first person perspective for starters.(think FPS going medieval and shit with added stats.)

 

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Nooo.

Oblivion is not an RPG. It claims to be. Yet is really just an action sandbox game. Wait until Wraithcat appears, then it will be explained.

 

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All I know is that Episode 1 makes me laugh and I don't mind beating the hell out of everything with the rake.

 

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Cool. Oblivion has some huge flaws, and it's more Action than RPG anyway.

 

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Don't know you can call anything that slow, 'action.' It would have been better if the pace of Oblivion's fighting had been more like Dark Messiah. Still Deadly Reflexes makes it a bit better.

 

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Morrowind is so much better then Oblivion from an RPG standpoint. True, it has some elements of a sandbox game, but overall it's an RPG and it will consume your very essence. IMO Morrowind > Oblivion.

Also, Neverwinter Nights is fairly good, but it takes a while to get used to it if you're used to playing other (newer) games.

 

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I just want to abuse things with a rake. I want the game now, too.

 

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Any game that gives you a choice between what stats to upgrade, What equipment to use and wear, and throws 200 or so non linear quest on your face is an rpg to me Danny, It all boils down to representetation.

The TES series represents the first person point of view of rpg(Which is rambo in a medieval or mage outfit).
It is not the only one to do so. The now classic Stonekeep also made this approach so were the early Might and Magic series.

Diablo represented the isometric point of view.(Point and clicky and ushering the "action rpg' genre)

All the Black isle/Troika/Obsidian/Bioware games represented what old school rpg's D&D should be all about. (The way the party is played or handled one could argue it was an rts game)


Hybrids were System shock 2 and Deus Ex.


MMO's dumbed all of it down to appear more appealing for mass consuption.




Kitty can blow her mouth off any way she wants. But I do know one thing.

I've been playing CRPG's (Old school tag for these things) since most of you guys were still young seen the genre's "evolution" so to speak(Both good and bad). And I can say that Oblivion is definitely RPG but not in a classic kind of way.

 

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I have an old saying.

To consider an innovation inferior to it's foundation, is to protest against what makes us human.

Innovation is one of our key traits. Without it, we'd be heading closer to the devolution of our species. Some people will like certain innovations, others won't, but just because the essence of something evolves over time, doesn't change the fact that it is what it is.

Oblivion is just as much an RPG as KotOR, or Mass Effect, or Neverwinter Nights. The only difference, is that it takes a different - in this case, more interactive - stance on what an RPG really is, as opposed to it's predecessors and colleagues.

 

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Oh I've played a fair few of those as well mate, believe me.

I just feel that a leveling system, which causes the world to remain statically connected to your status as the central character completely breaks the immersion of a functioning world. In Oblivion, nothing ever happens unless you cause it yourself. Even then, it's preset as you never have more than one option.

You can choose what stats to upgrade, sure, but there is no limit and in the end I found magic more or less useless due to the focus on stabbing and so on. That, and there is no real limit to create a sense of specialisation. You could pimp out every single stat to the max if you wanted, and even then the leveling system would create foes equal to you.

The quests are only non-linear in the fact you can choose how to approach them. They all end with the same result more or less with only one of two actually having a different ending (Two sides of the coin, being the only one I remember). Hell, the main quests doesn't even give you the option of being the bad guy! You're more or less forced to become a saint.

Who you ally yourself with also plays no significant role in the game. Join the dark brotherhood! Why not become a helpful community warrior with the Fighers Guild or protect the Emperor with the Blades?

Those things, as well as many others were a significant step backwards from what an RPG truly is.

 

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Hawkeye. Dink Smallwood.

 

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To be honest, Morrowind was more or less the same way. Only things that ended up different was taking advantage of a loop hole in the main quest and skip over 10 quests by taking the back door. The main quest didn't let you be the "bad" either, you couldn't join House Dagon unless you had a mod. Only the Fighters Guild, Thieves' Guild, and the Morag Tong offered two different ways where you could become their leader, all of them basicaly choosing whether you wanted a bloodbath or let everything go.

The houses of Telvanni, Redoran, and Hlaalu were a good immersion factor in that you couldn't be in all of them unless you used a bug. In the end though, the only true difference you get is constructing your stronghold and maybe killing off anything else, but no real change in the game's events. The vampire clans act similarly, but that's as far as it can go. Hell, somehow I became the head of the Tribunal Temple and the Imperial Cult... what? Guess I'll go become the Pope and the Caliph.

Even Morrowind's combat was largely generic. Just bash bash bash, except this was all chance based. Even with magic attacks, pure mage builds on either game is not really worth it unless you have the aid of a mod.

What happened with both Morrowind and Oblivion is that they gave us a cake but forgot to put nice things on it, and that's where the modding community goes in. If it wasn't for the modding community, neither game would have the longevity or influence they have now. Oblivion's biggest drawback to me compared to Morrowind is the damned level scaling, which is pretty much addressed by the three big mods out there- Francesco's, Oscuro's, and Martigen's all rework the leveling so that it is worth it to level up, but keep its one positive aspect that the game can still be challenging.

A lot of more level headed fans like me had to go through a lot of shit on the Elder Scrolls forums because of the constant flaming some users insisted on doing when they weren't pleased with the game. We had a lot of people actually SENDING letters to the game boards and such to have Oblivion reclassified as an Action/Adventure game, and that's overkill. It's got immersion issues but that doesn't mean it isn't an RPG. I think it was also partially in fault that so many people actually forgot how Morrowind was like unmodded- very stagnant, much like Oblivion.

Oblivion is an RPG. People can say it isn't all they want, but ultimately it is. It's just not their kind of RPG because Oblivion is more of an action-oriented RPG and some people can't get immersed in that. Just like some people prefer tactical FPSs to more chaotic ones like Unreal Tournament, they have their ups and downs, but they are all shooters in the end.

As for the original topic, this is more of a light-hearted and comical RPG. The Penny Arcade guys have their own sense of humor and I think this can be a swell game if the player just keeps an open mind and not be tight-assed about game mechanics.

The price is fairly reasonable for a new game as well. I just hope the episodes themselves are reasonably long.

Humor wise it depends on whether you like the Penny Arcade guys. Read through a few of their comics to see if you like their style because obviously that's what they'll put in their own game.

I like the artistic style in the game though, since it goes with that comic feeling.

Here's a trailer for the game.

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You said you download the demo Hawk. Did you enjoy it enough to buy it? You said you just might, but what's your final judgement?

 

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Damn Danny that's a very long reply...!!!

But as Mercz said that's just it. Oblivion is not an rpg for everybody.
Since some people (Me included) enjoy playing those from a zoomed out perspective(isometrical view) than up close. But the argument here is about
the content itself. Sure they dropped the ball on the game.(IMO they dropped the ball since Dagerfall as far as I'm concerned) But its still one of those Hybrids nonetheless. Hell if you look at it from a larger picture, Take out the fps mechanics and perspective as well as the non combat traits it will look like a Diablo clone.


And the reason I suggested Oblivion to Hawks is because the guy is an FPS nut thru and thru.(I never saw him post about anything other than FPS.)
And he loves that "one-man army" feel type of FPS.
So logically he'd feel more at home with Oblivion than say. Baldur's Gate or Dungeon siege.


I'm not defending Betsheda here mate I really don't(that company has raped FO3) And most of my pals think this is the reason they really were desperate to get their grimey hands on the liscense in the first place.
Since Fallout has guns a plenty, I suspect some genious over there thinks that crosshairs will have a more natural feel to it. And that violent death sequences are much cooler in an fps perspective. Not to mention they won't get massive crucifiction when it comes out since the hybrid tag will fit in so well this time around.

 

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Oblivion fills a role of an RPG in that it is a game where you play a role - ie. a role playing game.

Yes, it has many other aspects, it's called innovation. Bring great techniques and aspects from other genre's together and you get a real sexy game. But really... who cares?

This thread isn't even about Oblivion, let alone arguing whether it's a RPG or Sandbox game.
In fact, this thread is about Penny Arcade Adventures: On The Rain Slick Precipice Of Darkness, Episode One

 

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Oblivion fills a role of an RPG in that it is a game where you play a role - ie. a role playing game.

You play a role in all games.RPGs have developed into more than just pretending to be someone you're not.

 

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You're missing the main point that comes below that.

 

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ever play 'max-pain2"?-- don't know if it is a RPG or shooter or a little of each---

 

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I'm buying it. That game just cracks me up and it's perfect for when I just want to kick back, get buzzed and see something funny. I play enough DoD Source, CS, CoD2, BF2 to appreciate a non-intense, funny game.

 

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Hah, you'd love Stupid Invaders, then. That game lost the plot so much I'm never sure whether to laugh hysterically or cry in mortal agony.

 

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Sounds interesting. Only odd RPG I've ever played was some user-created one called "Barkley: Shut up and Jam Gaiden".

 

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I bought the full version of the Penny Arcade game last night.



I also bought Call Of Juarez, on sale this weekend for 9.99. So far, I like it. I always liked westerns! It's rated M-17+ because of blood, intense violence, language, sexual themes.

So, you kids stay away from this bad influence on your spongy minds!

 

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sounds like a winner!!!:fro: