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SWTOR Devs Talk About Beta Testing

Discussion in 'The OMG Archives' started by TeHpUmKinKiNg, Apr 23, 2009.

  1. TeHpUmKinKiNg

    TeHpUmKinKiNg OMG Member

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    Ten Ton Hammer: Since Ultima Online's original beta testing period, the concept of the beta test seems to have shifted toward pure marketing tactics rather than any actual testing by the player base. Do you think that beta tests will continue along this trend until we no longer see any form of open beta "test" any longer? Besides stress testing, is there any benefit to having a large closed beta or true open beta?


    Richard Vogel: The Open Beta test has changed. It is more of a “try before you buy” marketing push as well as a soft launch. You really don’t get much data from “Open” tests. It is really just making sure everything holds under stress and allows us to get people in the game early vs. everyone getting into the game on launch day. The reality of beta testing is that most people don’t play the game the way they do when it is launched. If there are exploits, they usually keep them to themselves to exploit later when the game goes live.


    Ten Ton Hammer: After the release of Tabula Rasa, Richard Garriott alluded to the fact that the TR beta test actually hurt the game's chances of success. On the other hand, there were a few instances in recent games where hardware factors kept players out of the game, but when the game released it sold very well. How do developers know if a beta will hurt their retail sales? When is it appropriate to let a lot of gamers see your upcoming game? Does it hurt a company to never have a truly public display before a game launches?





    On the other hand, there were a few instances in recent games where hardware factors kept players out of the game, but when the game released it sold very well. How do developers know if a beta will hurt their retail sales?


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    </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> Vogel: One thing to do is survey the users. If 75 percent or more tell us they will recommend the game to someone else, that is a very good sign. Another good sign is how much and how often people are playing the game. It they are playing a lot and they speak positively about their experience that is also a good sign. It is very important to ship a quality, fun product. You should know this by the number of open bugs, their severity, and survey data that is collected in the game. What happens most of the time is that decisions are made to ship the game before it is ready. You are only given one shot at this. If you have a bad player experience at launch and through the first few months, it sets the brand value forever. That is why games don’t usually recover from a bad launch.


    Ten Ton Hammer: When is it appropriate to let a lot of gamers see your upcoming game? Does it hurt a company to never have a truly public display before a game launches?


    Vogel: We feel that limiting the [number of] beta testers is a good thing. We get better data with fewer, more dedicated players and we are able to focus test specific areas of the game. You can’t do that with tens of thousands of players. It is a coordination issue. It is good, however, to allow enough players into the game to make sure it can handle the load under stress.


    About 4 weeks before launch is a good time to open the game up to consumers. If you have done your job right, you will know if the game is ready before you open beta. If not, you don’t open it until it is. It doesn’t hurt a company at all to open the game up to players four weeks before launch. It allows them to try before they buy and it allows us to make sure the game holds under pressure as well as providing a rolling launch so day one is not so crowded.


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  2. MyNameDidntFit_oth

    MyNameDidntFit_oth The Deceiver

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    This is interesting as it means there will likely be a short open beta for SW:TOR, which is definitely a good thing IMO.
     
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    TeHpUmKinKiNg

    TeHpUmKinKiNg OMG Member

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    I wonder if I'll get to be in it. I was one of the first dozen or so to sign up for it.
     
  4. MyNameDidntFit_oth

    MyNameDidntFit_oth The Deceiver

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    If you do I expect constant updates every 5 minutes.
     
  5. hk47fan_oth

    hk47fan_oth I R Posting Machine

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    Hmmmm, interesting...perhaps the game itself could be closer to release than I thought if they are discussing beta's(as Ki pointed out elsewhere)...oh and I have to give it to them, the graphics look good.
     
  6. Auron_Kae

    Auron_Kae OMG Member

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    I'd do beta if I thought my computer could handle it. =


    I'm glad they're opening it up to everyone, though--gives people a chance to see what they're buying and stuff.
     
  7. MyNameDidntFit_oth

    MyNameDidntFit_oth The Deceiver

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    Indeed, but I still doubt we will see it before Q4 this year.
     
  8. Rain

    Rain OMG Member

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    Okay like another of my questions this may seem EXTRA noobish...


    But don't you need a game disk to install the MMO first?


    (please dont laugh if taht sounded stupid!)
     
  9. MyNameDidntFit_oth

    MyNameDidntFit_oth The Deceiver

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    Depends on whether it is available on and digital distribution platforms (D2D, Steam, Impulse). Buying it retail; yes, you would.
     
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    Rain OMG Member

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    Yah... see just wondring :p Ive never played an MMO before but seen WoW and SW: Galaxies etc discs for retail, and all this talk of playing it before the game came out got my brain cunfuzzled :p
     
  11. val998

    val998 Galactic Fetus

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    Kinda old thread but, there been a beta sign up?


    The only thing that i found u could sign up for was the newsletter and forums that kinda stuff, signed up for the news letter the day they put it up. Though i dont know if i was the first or the 10000 person to sign up for that. How do people keep track of , what place in line u signed up for like the guy said there, or it just a guess.


    Forgot my forum ID sucks, had to make a new one
     
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    TeHpUmKinKiNg

    TeHpUmKinKiNg OMG Member

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    In the very beginning, literally seconds from the announcement, I was there. I based my place "in line" from an expected 80 registrants per minute.


    The Beta sign up asked you all sorts of questions about your computer what hardware it had, what operating system, etc. I never heard any word after that, except "Thanks for signing up!"
     
  13. Xecuter96

    Xecuter96 I Heart FOTOR :hugs:

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    wow it must have been really unlucky if you did 3 pages on saying what your system requirements are and then in the end saying, thank you for your info but sadly we have run out of spaces for the beta testing. *bashes computer*


    Still i excpect updates and possibly some footage fomr the beta Ki adi mundi. Try record the beta when your playing :D, just a suggestion.:bounce:
     
  14. ChipDaSavageLord

    ChipDaSavageLord Galactic Fetus

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    Ya footage is a treasure trove of information... a picture is worth a thousand words!


    "Troopers don't die. they go to hell and regroup!" lollol thats awesome!
     
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    TeHpUmKinKiNg

    TeHpUmKinKiNg OMG Member

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    Stal Galactic Fetus

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    GUYS YOU WILL GET IN OPEN BETA FOR SWTOR, Why do you think its called open beta?
     
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    pradap Galactic Fetus

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    TeHpUmKinKiNg

    TeHpUmKinKiNg OMG Member

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    I don't think they select on sign-up position. It seems fairly random, thus far.
     
  19. Stal

    Stal Galactic Fetus

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    we'll know when open beta and game is out because they'll make a HUGE announcement about it,I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a summer 2011 release
     
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